Main Menu · Master Index · At A Glance · Births · Deaths · Marriages · Gallery

Family Record: William FREER x Mary Ann ELLIOTT

Family Record: William FREER x Mary Ann ELLIOTT - Pedigree

Notes

1. William worked on big estate "Wynnstay". Later said to be a gamekeeper; [Note Record]
2. (Research):Baptism of William Freer (parents John and Frances) 12 Sep 1830 shows he must have been born before 12 Sep 1830. Baptisms were often several months after birth in those days (unless the baby was very poorly). Gravestone shows age 56 at death - therefore born 18 Feb 1830 - 12 Sep 1830 1841 census (6 June) shows age 10 therefore born after 6 Jun 1830 - narrows the range to born 7 Jun 1830 - 12 Sep 1830. 1841 enumerators were to round ages down to nearest 5 years for those over 15. William and his siblings listed as 13, 10, 6, 4 & 2 years old, so he was following the rules and 10 is not an obvious error. 1851 census (30 March) shows age 20 therefore born 31 Mar 1830 - consistent with 1841 dates 1861 census (7 April) shows age 30 there born after 7 Apr 1830 - consistent with 1851 dates 1871 census (2 April) shows age 40 which doesn't contradict 1881 census (3 April) shows age 50 which doesn't contradict Marriage 4 Dec 1849 shows full age (21) - therefore born before 5 Dec 1828. Obviously a contradiction and somewhat believable because Mary Ann stated she was "under". Why would William lie? Maybe his parents didn't consent. Death age was stated as 51 which is clearly wrong (he was 56). His daughter Helen, who then lived in London, was present at the death and was the informant. It's possible she didn't know his age and/or Mary Ann was not in a state to advise. Current conclusion is William was born between 7 Jun 1830 and 12 Sep 1830; [Note Record]
3. Supposedly full age in 1849 (born before 1828); [Note Record]
4. (Research):Easily confused with Thomas in MRIN 98; [Note Record]
5. (Research):John Elliott's daughter Mary Ann's marriage was in 1849 (John Elliott was listed as father, but not noted as deceased) and his wife Sarah was a widow in in the March 1851 census. If alive at the wedding then John Elliott died between 4 Dec 1849 and 30 Mar 1851. However, it is also a possibility that he was deceased which could explain why he wasn't a witness (Elizabeth Tomlinson taking his place). There is a John Elliott RIN 1187 death Q4/1850 in Leicester. However, the index says he died age 73 (born 1777) making him a lot older than Sarah (35 years older). Certificate proves this is not our John Elliott. The death certificate for John Elliott 1846 shows he was around the correct age (4 years older than Sarah) and critically living in White Street. This is the same street as Sarah lived as a widow in 1851 and his daughter in 1849. The death informant was Louisa Johnson on Burgess Street - this street is adjacent to White Street, so likely a family friend. It's obviously an open question why Louisa was present at the death when Sarah could have done so. His daughters Mary Ann & Maria were approx 15 years old at the time. White Street has been difficult to track down as it no longer exists. See Map 1892 Leicester Chas E Goad Insurance Plan of Leicester sheet 20 which does show it. In 1841, John Elliott was living in White Street but not with his family. This ties in with Sarah being in prison awaiting trial for larceny and also their children, Mary Ann and Maria, being sent to live with their grandfather William Tomlinson in Thurlaston. The Mrs Johnson who gave a favourable character statement at Sarah's larceny trial in 1841 could well be the same as Louisa Johnson who was present at John Elliott's death in 1846.; [Note Record]
6. (Research):Gravestone aged 82 on 22 Jan 1913. Therefore born 23 Jan 1830 - 22 Jan 1831 1851 census shows age 20 therefore born 31 Mar1830 - 30 Mar 1831 Conclusion is she was born 31 Mar 1830 - 22 Jan 1831; more likely year is 1830 There is a Mary Elliott (not Mary Ann) baptised 26 Oct 1829 in Normanton on Soar (25 miles away from Thurlaston); [Note Record]
7. (Medical):Cerebral haemorrhage is a type of brain stroke; [Note Record]
8. Stated as Under 21 in Marriage certificate 4/12/1849 implying birth was after 1828; [Note Record]
9. (Research):A Sarah Elliott died Basford Q4/1889 (born 1813) aged 76 - RIN 1191 eliminated. A Sarah Elliott died Basford Q1/1889 (born 1814) aged 75 - RIN 1190 eliminated. Perhaps Sarah and John Moseby never actually married (explaining no marriage records found) and so was recorded by her prior name. Sarah Moseby in 1871 aged 58 (born 1812-13) is grandmother to Mary Jane Freer Sarah Moseby in 1881 aged 68 (born 1812-13) is grandmother to Lucy Freer In 1891, John Moseby appears to have been married to another Sarah (born 1824) 12 years younger than our Sarah. No Sarah Moseby's died between 1880 and 1900 (we know our Sarah was alive 1881). In 1901, a Sarah Moseby died in Nottingham aged 71 (born 1829) too young to be our Sarah (born 1812) Sarah Tomlinson born 1812 to William & Jane Tomlinson is our Sarah. Sarah Tomlinson born 1823 to The Mrs Johnson who gave a favourable character statement at Sarah's larceny trial in 1841 could well be the same as Louisa Johnson who was present at John Elliott's death in 1846.; [Note Record]
10. (Research):GRO death indexes have Frances Fanny Freer dying Q3/1881 aged 81 (birth 1799-1800); [Note Record]
11. (Research):Family bible appears to read 31 Jan 1850; [Note Record]
12. (Research):1861 Census - Mary Jane listed as 1 year old on 7/4/1861 so born between 4/1859 & 4/1860 (more likely 1859). However, elder sister Helen born 6/1859 which is within the window so they could be twin sisters. If not twins then Mary Jane should be born more than 9 months after Helen which is 3/1860 which is again inside the window. Both Helen & May Jane listed as 1 year old on the census, but Helen would be 1 year 10 months and Mary Jane 1 year 1 month. Looks like an enumeration error. Mary Jane Freer born Dec atr 1853 to mother maiden name Elliott. The ordering on the census is correct by age and this would make her 7 in 1861 census. Perhaps the 1 is actually a 7 (very poorly written). This also explains the uncharacteristically large gap between her mother's pregnancies! 1871 census - Mary Jane Freer living with John & Sarah Moseby (granddaughter to John Moseby) aged 17 born Quorndon, Leics. John was born Wakefield. Sarah born Leics. No other candidate Mary Jane Freer born Leicestershire 5 years either side of 1855 (other than in 1861) Death of Mary Jane Hatherley in 1926 (from burial) contradicted by GRO index age 71 (should be 73); [Note Record]
13. (Research):David Rudkin's grave 1907 is the same plot as his sister in law Lucy Johnson (nee Freer) buried 1910; [Note Record]
14. (Research):Went to work for Colonel Bulkeley at Oak Cottage, New Woodhouse, Whitchurch in his youth. Then for the Corbett family at Adderley (22 years) Then Major CT Dugdale at Terrick Hall approx 1900; [Note Record]
15. (Research):Possibly George Freer (36 in 1901, born Ruabon 1865) according to 1901 census index.; [Note Record]
16. (Research):Edith (b Abt 1873 in Ruabon) listed with Henry Evans (b Abt 1880) with child Edith (b Abt 1900 in Ladybarn) listed in 1911 census; 1 child alive out of 3; see rg14_23767_0009_03.jpg ; Ladybarn is in Manchester. Chorlton reg district. See births Q4 1900 8c 691 Edith James (aged 30 b Ruabon) listed with Thomas James in Fradswell Staffs 1901 census with 5 children. see STSRG13_2573_2575-0206; [Note Record]
17. Wife living with Thomas in 1871

Citations

i. John Freer Family Bible 1842-1949, The Holy Bible. Privately held by Stephen Ashford, Denbighshire. 2020.; Page page 4. William Freer Born June 18 in the year of our Lord 1830.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
ii. Quorndon, Census Index, 1841, http://www.quornmuseum.com; Page p49; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
iii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841." online database.; Page entry for John Freer household, Quorndon, Leicestershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
iv. Marriage Certificates.; Page marriage certificate for William Freer and Mary Ann Elliott, married 4 Dec 1849; Leicester registration district; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
v. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851." online database.; Page (accessed 27 Aug 2018), entry for entry for William Freer household, Quorndon; HO107/2087 p16-17; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
vi. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861." online database.; Page (accessed 19 Sep 2011); Class: RG9; Piece: 4280; Folio: 70; Page: 17; GSU roll: 543260.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
vii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1871." online database.; Page (accessed 19 Sep 2011); Class: RG10; Piece: 5652; Folio: 81; Page: 9; GSU roll: 892484.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
viii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1881." online database.; Page (accessed 28 Aug 2018), entry for William Freer household, Ruabon, Wrexham; PRO RG11/5512 p16; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
ix. Momumental inscriptions; Page William Freer monumental inscription, Photographed by Nan Morris, 4/5/2011.; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
x. England and Wales, birth/marriage/death certificate; General Register Office, Southport.; Page Marriage//1890/259; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
xi. Death Certificates.; Page death certificate for William Freer, died 17 Feb 1887; Wrexham registration district, Ruabon sub-district; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
xii. Marriage Certificates.; Page marriage certificate for Absalom Eddleston and Sarah Ann Freer, married 18 Dec 1913; citing 8e/629/74, Q4 quarter 1913, Blackburn registration district; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
xiii. Quorndon, Census Index, 1851, http://www.quornmuseum.com; Page p12; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xiv. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851." online database.; Page entry for John Freer household, Quorndon, Leicestershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xv. Baptisms in the Parish of Quorndon.; Page St. Bartholomews Baptism transciptions; entry for John Freer; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xvi. England & Wales, Deaths Index.; Page Barrow upon Soar." volume 07A, page 116, John Freer, aged 56, accessed 7 Apr 2020.; [Source Record]; Certainty Questionable
xvii. Quorndon, Census Index, 1871, http://www.quornmuseum.com17; Page p4; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xviii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1871." online database.; Page (accessed 20 Jan 2020), entry for Thomas Freer household, Quorndon, Leicestershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xix. Death Certificates.; Page death certificate for John Freer, died 14 Feb 1858; Barrow upon Soar registration district, Quorndon sub-district; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xx. England & Wales, Deaths Index.; Page 15, 22, Barrow upon Soar, Q4/1845, entry for Thomas Freer, age 78, accessed 29 Mar 2020.; [Source Record]; Certainty Questionable
xxi. Death Certificates.; Page death certificate for Thomas Freer, died 26 October 1845; Barrow upon Soar registration district, Quorndon sub-district; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxii. "England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915," database online; Page accessed 29 Nov 2012); Oct-Nov-Dec 1845, Barrow Upon Soar, vol 15, p22.; [Source Record]; Certainty Questionable
xxiii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841." online database.; Page entry for John Elliott household, Leicester, Leicstershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxiv. "County Burials Index for Leicestershire & Rutland," database; Page entry for John Elliot, aged 38; 28 Jun 1846.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxv. Death Certificates.; Page death certificate for John Elliott, died 23 Jun 1846; Leicester Union registration district, West Leicester sub-district; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
xxvi. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851." online database.; Page (accessed 11 Mar 2020), entry for Sarah Elliott household, 23 White Street, Leicester; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxvii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841." online database.; Page entry for Willliam Tomlinson household, Thurlaston, Leicestershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxviii. "County Burials Index for Leicestershire & Rutland," database; Page accessed 10 Sep 2021), entry for William Tomlinson, aged 69; 28 Jun 1846, Thurlaston.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxix. England & Wales, Deaths Index.; Page Blaby district." 7A, 28, William Tomlinson, aged 69, accessed 10 Sep 2021.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxx. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841." online database.; Page (accessed 11 Mar 2020), entry for William Tomlinson household, Thurlaston; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxxi. Quorndon, Census Index, 1851, http://www.quornmuseum.com; Page p44; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxxii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1881." online database.; Page (accessed 28 Aug 2018), entry for entry for William Freer household, Ruabon, Wrexham; PRO RG11/5512 p16; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxxiii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891." online database.; Page (accessed 27 Aug 2018), entry for entry for Mary Ann Freer household, Bryn; RG12/4612 p7; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxxiv. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911." online database.; Page (accessed 23 Aug 2018), entry for Mary Ann Freer household, Dynhynlle Cottage near Ruabon; RD 621, SD 2, ED 6, SN 46; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxxv. Death Certificates.; Page death certificate for Mary Ann Freer, died 22 Jan 1913; Wrexham registration district, Ruabon sub-district; [Source Record]; Certainty Unknown ('4')
xxxvi. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1901." online database.; Page (accessed 13 May 2020), entry for Mary Ann Freer household, Ruabon, Denbighshire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxxvii. GRO Indexes; Page GRO Death Q1 1913 Mary A Freer; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xxxviii. "England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," online database, ancestry.com; Page accessed 23 May 2020), entry for Sarah Tomlinson.; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xxxix. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1871." online database.; Page (accessed 11 Mar 2020), entry for John Moseby household, St. Mary, Nottingham; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xl. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1881." online database.; Page (accessed 11 Mar 2020), entry for John Moseby household, St. Mary, Nottingham; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xli. Newspaper Articles (British Newspaper Archive); Page "Borough Sessions," 3 July 1841, p. 4, col. 2; digital images, Leicester Chronicle.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xlii. Newspaper Articles (British Newspaper Archive); Page "Borough Sessions," 3 July 1841, col. 6; digital images, Leicester Mercury.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xliii. Newspaper Articles (British Newspaper Archive); Page "Borough Sessions," 10 July 1841, col. 3; digital images, Leicester Herald.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xliv. "County Burials Index for Leicestershire & Rutland," database; Page accessed 10 Sep 2021), entry for Jane Tomlinson, aged 75; Thurlaston.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xlv. "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database; Page entry for Ann Bown, baptised 15 Aug 1785; citing Glenfield, Leicestershire.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xlvi. Quorndon, Census Index, 1871, http://www.quornmuseum.com; Page p4; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xlvii. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1881." online database.; Page (accessed 7 Apr 2020), entry for Tom Freer household, Mountsorrel, Leicestershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence
xlviii. England & Wales, Deaths Index.; Page Barrow upon Soar." volume 07A, page 87, Q4/1881, Frances Fanny Freer, aged 81, accessed 7 Apr 2020.; [Source Record]; Certainty Secondary Evidence
xlix. "Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861." online database.; Page (accessed 7 Apr 2020), entry for Frances F. Freer household, Mountsorrel, Leicestershire; [Source Record]; Certainty Primary Evidence